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Jay Z Talks Rocky Relationship with Kanye West, Racism, Hurting Beyonce & More in New York Times Interview

By Teonny Spears / Published on Thursday, 30 Nov 2017 14:03 PM / No Comments

Just days after his eight Grammy nominations, Jay Z sat down with The New York Times where he gave a very in-depth interview about his relationship with wife Beyonce, and how they both used music as therapy for their issues.

Jigga also shed light on his troubled friendship with rapper and fashion designer Kanye West as well as well as racism in America today, his mother’s sexuality, and his music legacy. Take a look at a few of the excerpts below:

ON CHEATING ON WIFE BEYONCE: “Most people walk away, and divorce rate is like 50 percent or something ’cause most people can’t see themselves. The hardest thing is seeing pain on someone’s face that you caused, and then have to deal with yourself.”

ON HOW THEY BOTH USED MUSIC AS THERAPY: “We were working on material together and it became LEMONADE. She went off and did her thing and it was like, it just felt like she should go first and she should share her truths with the world. It wasn’t based on, ‘I have to say something because of this album.’ It wasn’t even like that. It was just really honest.[I was] really proud of the music she made, and she was really proud of the art I released. We really have a healthy respect for one another’s craft. I think she’s amazing.”

ON KANYE WEST: “I [talked to] Kanye the other day, just to tell him he’s my brother. I love Kanye. I do. It’s a complicated relationship with us…Kanye came into this business on my label. So I’ve always been like his big brother…In the long relationship, you know, hopefully when we’re 89 we look at this six months or whatever time and we laugh at that. You know what I’m saying? There’s gonna be complications in the relationship that we have to get through. And the only way to get through that is we sit down and have a dialogue and say, “These are the things that I’m uncomfortable with. These are the things that are unacceptable to me. This is what I feel.” I’m sure he feels that I’ve done things to him as well. You know what I’m saying? These are — I’m not a perfect human being by no stretch.”

ON RACISM: “The great thing about Donald Trump being president is now we’re forced to have the dialogue. Now we’re having the conversation on the large scale; he’s provided the platform for us to have the conversation.”

ON HIS MOTHER’S SEXUALITY: “We never spoke about it. Until, like, recently, now we start having these beautiful conversations, and just really getting to know each other. We were always good friends but now we’re really great friends. You know. And we were just talking as friends. And then she was sharing that she was in love. She can be herself [now]. She doesn’t have to hide for her kids or feel like she’s embarrassing her kids. It was a much different time then. [Now] she can just live her full life, her whole life, and be her.”

ON HIS LEGACY: “I pushed the window…I stretched it. Oh, I stood in that window a really long time. But still, no, I don’t think people are looking to me as like, The Thing. At the end of the day we gonna find out it’s not about the white-hot space, but it’s about finding the truth. That white-hot space — people think it’s the biggest thing, but it’s really small. It’s almost like a trend. Would you rather be a trend, or you rather be Ralph Lauren? You know what I mean; like, you rather be a trend, or you rather be forever? I’m the person that looked at the Mona Lisa and be like, Man, that’s gonna be cool in 40 years. I play forever. And so my whole thing is to identify with the truth. Not to be the youngest, hottest, new, trendy thing.”

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Teonny Spears

26 year-old Teonny Spears, is from a small town in Louisiana called Ferriday, where he currently lives. A fan of Pop music, Teonny began writing at a small age and in 2005, he began blogging for fun on Myspace about his favorite artists.

After building a love for entertainment news, he began working for Defglam.com, and launched his own weekly show in 2009 called EnterSHADEment Talk for 8 seasons and over 200 episodes before ending the show in 2012. He shortly left Defglam in the same year.


In 2012, Teonny became the Pop Culture Expert for Sinuous Magazine.After a three-year run, Teonny left the publication to pursue new interests, and now resides at PopGlitz.com, as the Editor-in-Chief, where he specializes in Celebrity Gossip, fashion, music & introducing readers to new and rising talent.


Teonny is also part of a collective called The Bloginati, a Multifaceted group with people who touch on several forms of media.


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